Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? Johnny Murphy

Posted: 20th March 2012 by Graham Womack in Johnny Murphy

Claim to fame: I’ll start by thanking broadcaster Len Berman for including a link to the BPP All-Time Dream Project in a recent mass email. The link led to votes from about 50 people, including the son of former New York Yankees pitcher Johnny Murphy who emailed and suggested I add a relief pitcher category. I’ve chosen not to do this for the same reason I don’t have a designated hitter or bench players in the project– I don’t want a way for people to jam extra players into their lineups, like sticking Willie Mays in center field and Mickey Mantle at DH. I want people having to make tough decisions. It’s a nine-player dream team for a reason.

That being said, I’m glad the email alerted me to Murphy, who pitched 13 years in the majors between 1932 and 1946, might have been baseball’s first great relief pitcher, and later was general manager of the New York Mets from 1964 until his death in 1970. I sent an email to Frank Graham Jr., whose father covered Murphy as a player. Graham has stories about being around those Bronx Bombers as a kid, and I asked if he’d crossed paths with Murphy. Graham replied:

No, I had no interaction with Fordham Johnny Murphy, though I do remember some of my dad’s ‘dugout’ columns where Lefty Gomez would make some wisecrack about how Murphy pulled him out of a jam so often that their names were being coupled like ham and eggs. That kind of connection was rare in those days, when relievers were often characterized as second-rate pitchers not good enough to make the starting rotation. Branch Rickey was one who thought the value of relief pitchers was overrated– in other words, good pitchers started a game and saved it as well.

Murphy tallied 107 saves in his playing career, similar to an early stolen base champ or Deadball Era home run leader in that he played in a time before his marquee stat was favored, and the more that saves aggregators like Lee Smith, Mariano Rivera, and Trevor Hoffman come to glut the Hall of Fame ballot, the more pioneering relievers like Murphy may be forgotten. That’s a shame, and there ought to be a way for Cooperstown to remedy this.

Current Hall of Fame eligibility: Under new voting rules that took effect prior to the 2011 election, Murphy can be considered for Cooperstown by the Pre-Integration Era section of the Veterans Committee. It meets once every three years and will convene at the Winter Meetings in December.

Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? Lest there be any confusion, let me be clear: The point of this column isn’t too mount a case that Murphy needs to be enshrined. I’m a big Hall person, though to me, there are simply too many other players to be honored first, and that includes a couple early relievers. In general, I think Cooperstown has made incomplete note of pioneer closers, relying too much on career saves totals. It gives short shrift to greats like Sparky Lyle and Dan Quisenberry, both men who dominated in their day and would get my vote sooner than Smith.

I don’t feel as strongly about Murphy. Maybe it’s that he played in pinstripes, and plenty of very good Yankees are already enshrined from Waite Hoyt to Joe Gordon to Phil Rizzuto and others. Murphy’s stats also simply don’t beg a plaque, from a 3.50 lifetime ERA and 118 ERA+ to 14.7 career WAR and 1.367 WHIP. Lyle, Quisenberry, and a number of other closers trump those numbers. And I don’t know if Murphy was an executive long enough for it to matter for the Veterans Committee, which considers a man’s total contribution to baseball. I could be wrong here, and if there’s something I’m missing, I encourage comments from anyone reading, including anyone from Murphy’s family.

Do I mean to knock Murphy? Certainly not. Just getting to play an important role on the Yankees of the ’30s and ’40s is awesome. And while I wouldn’t necessarily enshrine pioneer relievers like Murphy, they belong somewhere in the museum, just as I’d highlight early stolen base kings like Maury Wills or Deadball home run hitters like Gavvy Cravath. They all figure notably in baseball’s history. Maybe there’s a relief pitchers exhibit that can include Murphy, if one doesn’t exist already.

Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? is a regular feature here.

Others in this series: Adrian BeltreAl OliverAlan TrammellAlbert BelleAlbert PujolsAllie ReynoldsBarry BondsBarry LarkinBert BlylevenBill KingBilly MartinBobby GrichCecil TravisChipper JonesClosersCraig BiggioCurt FloodDan QuisenberryDarrell EvansDave ParkerDick AllenDon Mattingly,Don Newcombe,Dwight EvansGeorge SteinbrennerGeorge Van HaltrenGus GreenleeHarold BainesHarry DaltonJack MorrisJeff BagwellJim EdmondsJoe CarterJoe PosnanskiJohn Smoltz, Jose CansecoJuan GonzalezKeith HernandezKen CaminitiKevin BrownLarry WalkerManny RamirezMaury WillsMel HarderMoises AlouPete Browning,Phil CavarrettaRafael PalmeiroRoberto AlomarRocky Colavito,Roger MarisRon CeyRon GuidryRon SantoSammy SosaSmoky Joe WoodSteve Garvey,Ted SimmonsThurman MunsonTim RainesTony OlivaVince ColemanWill Clark

  1. Adam Darowski says:

    I agree with you that Murphy doesn’t belong, but I do like that you’re bringing him up. Personally, I believe that the pioneer reliever that gets the shaft is John Hiller. I actually wouldn’t be torn if Lee Smith got in. In fact, if Hoffman goes in, Smith should definitely go in. I also adore Dan Quisenberry and Kent Tekulve, but that’s more personal belief. Quiz may very well belong, but wWAR actually shows Bruce Sutter as considerably more deserving than him, which surprised me a bit. That damn killer defense behind Quiz… :)

    Back to Murphy. We’re talking about 1050 innings with a 118 ERA+ and 14.7 WAR. Other relievers (80% of games in relief) in that ballpark (900-1200 IP, 112-124 ERA+ and 13-17 WAR) include:

    Greg Minton
    Steve Bedrosian
    Ted Wilks
    Dan Plesac
    Alejandro Pena
    Ron Perranoski
    Willie Hernandez
    Jeff Russell

    Not a list that inspires Hall of Fame discussion, but a list of some firemen who had some great seasons.

  2. Benjamin Raucher says:

    No

  3. Vinnie says:

    Before you begin any discussion of Johnny Murphy, you have to first pass through Firpo Mayberry , Hugh Casey and Doc Crandall.

  4. Daniel Maloney says:

    Steve Garvey,most certainly.He is not the first young, rich man to have been set-up by women who are immoral and calculating.
    No one gave him the money…he earned it the hard way….work,work and women masquerading as loving,caring human beings ruined him.
    He could hit the ball anytime,anywhere and his fielding was flawless.
    Danirl Maloney

    ps I am a retired Pittsburgh stockbroker who gave him a thumbs up or down thru the ground floor window,everytime he was in town for years..he was on his way to a movie with two other chaps.

  5. Steven malia says:

    Johnny the fireman murphy was my great grandmother Valentina Rhoda Murphy malias first cousin I’m trying to find any books on him if any and yes he should be in the hall of fame . How do I contact his son.? I’m steven malia in Salt Lake City utah

  6. Johnny Murphy was my Grandmother, Valentina Rhoda Murphy, of Salt Lake City, Utah.
    Do you know where in Ireland Johnny’s Parents were from? My Son and I have been trying to find out.

    Thank you from Art Malia

  7. Correction: Johnny Murphy was my Grandmother’s First Cousin. Grandmother was from Salt Lake City. My Son and I are trying to find out where in Ireland Johnny’s parents were born.

    Thank you from Art Malia Malia, by the way is the root of the O’Malley name.