Pete Rose’s historically bad final seasons

I was struck perusing on Saturday to see Pete Rose had -13.7 Wins Above Average over his final seven seasons, 1980 through 1986. It’s long been well-known Rose stuck around a few seasons longer than he maybe should have as he chased the all-time hits record. Rose got 884 hits those final seven seasons, passing Honus Wagner, Cap Anson, Tris Speaker, Stan Musial, Hank Aaron and finally Ty Cobb on the hits list. But those seasons cost Rose in other ways.

If Rose had retired at 38 after the 1979 season, he’d rank 49th all-time with 42.3 WAA; instead, he’s tied for 130th at 28.6. He’d also be two hits shy of averaging 200 hits a season for his career and likely would have been ushered into the Hall of Fame in 1985, four years before his lifetime ban for betting on baseball. In more ways than maybe any other player in baseball history, Rose’s career and life is a story of not knowing when to quit. Ironically, it’s the same compulsive drive that made him great.

By Wins Above Average, Rose’s final seven seasons rank 29th-worst among position players in modern baseball history. With the help of the Play Index tool, here are the 29 worst seven-season runs by position players since 1900:

  • Bill Bergen, -14.3 WAA, 1901-1907
  • Bill Bergen, -14 WAA, 1902-1908
  • Bill Bergen, -14.9 WAA, 1903-1909
  • Bill Bergen, -16 WAA, 1904-1910
  • Bill Bergen, -16.3 WAA, 1905-1911
  • Ralph Young, -14 WAA, 1916-1922
  • Walter Holke, -13.8 WAA, 1918-1924
  • Walter Holke, -14.7 WAA, 1919-1925
  • Chick Galloway, -15.3 WAA, 1920-1926
  • Tommy Thevenow, -13.8 WAA, 1928-1934
  • Tommy Thevenow, -15.6 WAA, 1929-1935
  • Tommy Thevenow, -14 WAA, 1930-1936
  • Doc Cramer, -15.8 WAA, 1936-1942
  • Doc Cramer, -13.8 WAA, 1937-1943
  • Ken Reitz, -15 WAA, 1973-1979
  • Ken Reitz, -16.2 WAA, 1974-1980
  • Jerry Morales, -15.3 WAA, 1974-1980
  • Dan Meyer, -14.3 WAA, 1974-1980
  • Ken Reitz, -15.7 WAA, 1975-1981
  • Dan Meyer, -15.4 WAA, 1975-1981
  • Jerry Morales, -14.9 WAA, 1975-1981
  • Doug Flynn, -15.9 WAA, 1976-1982
  • Dan Meyer, -14.1 WAA, 1976-1982
  • Doug Flynn, -17.6 WAA, 1977-1983
  • Dan Meyer, -14.7 WAA, 1977-1983
  • Doug Flynn, -17 WAA, 1978-1984
  • Doug Flynn, -14.7 WAA, 1979-1985
  • Pete Rose, -13.7 WAA, 1980-1986
  • Yuniesky Betancourt, -16.7 WAA, 2007-2013

There’s another side to this that I’d be remiss to not mention. For one thing, Rose’s WAA would be higher had he not played first base for the Phillies. According to this page of, which @LoveSportsFacts showed me on Twitter, WAR sets average offensive production for first basemen at .797 OPS. It’s set at .707 for third base, Rose’s position before he signed with the Phillies in December 1978. Assuming Rose had been able to keep playing the bulk of his innings at third, his .687 OPS from 1980 through 1986 would be close to average for the position. It seems a little unfair to penalize Rose, given that he switched positions to accommodate Mike Schmidt.

Rose’s greatest value may have come in the clubhouse, which makes me wonder why he didn’t manage Philadelphia, which had four skippers during his five seasons in town. Dan Mallon shared a few pages with me via Twitter from the 2013 book Almost a Dynasty: The Rise and Fall of the 1980 Phillies, which describes Rose’s immediate impact in Philadelphia. This included Rose diverting attention away from Schmidt by grandstanding with the press, “a wonderful salesman for the team almost from the beginning of his tenure.” He also helped build Schmidt and other teammates’ confidence. The book includes a quote from Schmidt, who said of Rose:

In 1980, Pete provided the kind of dynamic leadership that took the pressure off the other players. He was the finest team player I had ever seen. He always had something to say to pump you up, to play harder every game. At the same time, he was the kind of athlete who was boastful and could go out on the field and back it up. That allowed the rest of us to raise our level of play and ultimately go on to win the World Series.

Mallon told me Rose that Schmidt, like Phillies teammates Larry Bowa and the late Tug McGraw and manager Dallas Green have all publicly credited Rose for getting Philadelphia over the hump to win its first World Series in 1980. After all when Rose joined the Phillies as a free agent in December 1978, the team was coming off three consecutive years losing the National League Championship Series. As a player, Rose was worth -2.8 WAA in 1980. Given the outcome that year, the point is moot.

It’s a different story for 1983, where 42-year-old Rose hit .245, was worth -4 Wins Above Average and struggled to keep his starting spot. Nicknamed “The Wheeze Kids” at an MLB-high 31.8 years average age that season, Philadelphia somehow made a pennant run. Rose hit .345 in the playoffs, but the Phillies lost to Baltimore 4-1 in the World Series and released Rose one week later. Roger Angell wrote of it, “It is painful for us to see old players go, and infinitely harder when they prolong the inevitable process.” Bill James wrote in his 1984 abstract, by which point Rose had signed with the Montreal Expos:

Pete’s selfishness in sacrificing the good of his team to forge on in sub-mediocrity after his own goals is, in its own way, what you would expect from a spoiled beauty. It’s a sad way to end a distinguished career, but you’ll do us both a favor if you’ll just pull the plug on it, and let him get his 4,000th hit two years from now in an empty parking garage in a dark corner of the nation, at a far remove from the pennant race.

Baseball, of course, did nothing of the sort with a seven-minute celebration and new Corvette presented on field when Rose got his record on September 11, 1985.

The worst Hall of Famers and why I’m against kicking anyone out

As someone who writes often about the Hall of Fame, I’m accustomed to readers asking about the worst players in Cooperstown. I generally shy away from writing about this. One of the benefits of independent blogging is the control one has over their writing topics and I generally prefer to focus on more positive subject matter. I’ll admit it, too. As someone who’s grown more in favor of a large Hall of Fame through five years of researching and writing about baseball history through this website, I also am not hugely motivated to decry a few lousy players being in. I’d rather focus on worthy players who aren’t yet enshrined.

That said, as anyone who’s been around this site awhile may know, others here have written about this topic before. Recently with the help of the Play Index tool, I took another look. I found 20 Hall of Famers who rank for one stat, Wins Above Average as the worst players enshrined. While I wouldn’t suggest any stat offers definitive proof in this regard, the results here struck me. A lot of these players are the usual candidates in these exercises.

Here’s what I found:

Lowest Wins Above Average, Hall of Fame position players

  1. Lloyd Waner, -2.1 WAA in 1,993 games
  2. Tommy McCarthy, 0.2 WAA in 1,273 games
  3. Ray Schalk, 4.5 WAA in 1,762 games
  4. High Pockets Kelly, 4.5 WAA in 1,623 games
  5. Bill Mazeroski, 4.7 WAA in 2,163 games
  6. Rick Ferrell, 5.9 WAA in 1,884 games
  7. Rabbit Maranville, 7.6 WAA in 2,670 games
  8. Lou Brock, 8.2 WAA in 2,616 games
  9. Red Schoendienst, 8.4 WAA in 2,216 games
  10. Jim Bottomley, 9 WAA in 1,991 games

Some of the usual suspects abound here. Bill James, among others, has suggested Tommy McCarthy may be the worst Hall of Famer. People sometimes defend Bill Mazeroski’s selection by saying he did more than hit the winning homer in the 1960 World Series, that he was a great defensive second baseman as well. But he’s one of the worst hitters enshrined. By sabermetrics, Mazeroski’s bat more or less offsets his glove, with Mazeroski saving 147 defensive runs above average but being worth -162 runs below average at the plate. That’s third-worst among Hall of Fame position players behind Maranville at -228 runs below average and Luis Aparicio at -197 runs below average.

Voting shenanigans helped get at least three of the position players above their plaques. The Veterans Committee may have enshrined Rick Ferrell in 1984 after a sympathetic player called several members in hopes of keeping Ferrell from being shut out in votes. I’ve heard Ted Williams and Stan Musial, while on the committee, made a deal for their respective ex-teammates Bobby Doerr and Red Schoendienst to be enshrined. Then there’s High Pockets Kelly, who essentially got in because ex-teammates Frankie Frisch and Bill Terry were members of the 1973 Veterans Committee.

Frisch, notorious for looking down on later-generation players, said Kelly “had a better arm than any of today’s stars.” Another member of the Veterans Committee that voted Kelly in, Waite Hoyt, said Kelly was the first first baseman sent to the outfield to relay throws to home plate. Bad Hall of Famers are sometimes defended as the first of something. Tommy McCarthy is said to have invented the hit and run play. My friend Jacob Pomrenke, a SABR member who researches the Black Sox, said Ray Schalk was the first catcher to backup first and third base on throws.

A few people made this list because of late declines. Lou Brock retired with 3,000 hits and the stolen base record, though he had -6.4 WAA over his final five seasons, dropping him within range here. Same goes for Maranville, who was worth -9.2 WAA over his final 10 seasons, though interestingly, he received MVP votes five of those years. Then there’s Jim Bottomley. It’s been said Branch Rickey had a knack for knowing when to sell off aging players. Bottomley had 15 WAA when Rickey traded the 32-year-old first baseman in December 1932. Bottomley compiled -5.9 WAA thereafter.

Lowest Wins Above Average, Hall of Fame pitchers

  1. Catfish Hunter, 5.8 WAA in 3,449.1 IP
  2. Rollie Fingers, 7 WAA in 1,701.1 IP
  3. Rube Marquard, 8.8 WAA in 3,306.2 IP
  4. Herb Pennock, 9.4 WAA in 3,571.2 IP
  5. Jesse Haines, 10.3 WAA in 3,208.2 IP
  6. Bruce Sutter, 10.8 WAA in 1,042 IP
  7. Burleigh Grimes, 14.2 WAA in 4,180 IP
  8. Red Ruffing, 15.1 WAA in 4,344 IP
  9. Bob Lemon, 15.1 WAA in 2,850 IP
  10. Jack Chesbro, 16 WAA in 2,896.2 IP

It’s interesting to see Catfish Hunter atop this list, as he had an MLB-best 111 wins from 1971 through 1975 with a 2.65 ERA and 294 innings a year on average during that span. Hunter’s heavy workload was his undoing, as it was for many pitchers in the ’70s when usage rates for starters reached their highest point since the Deadball Era. [One example, per the Play Index tool: No pitcher has faced 1,200 batters in a season since Charlie Hough in 1987; it happened 63 times during the ’70s.] Hunter’s low WAA is partly because he threw his last pitch at 33. My friend Adam Darowski also said Hunter’s WAA is lower because he had elite defenses in Oakland and New York.

Most of the other starting pitchers here, in fact, were part of marquee teams as well. Herb Pennock and Red Ruffing both pitched extensively for the Murderers Row-era New York Yankees. Jesse Haines was a teammate of Frankie Frisch on the Gashouse Gang St. Louis Cardinals and, like Kelly, got into Cooperstown during Frisch’s Veterans Committee tenure. Bob Lemon won 20 games seven of his 13 seasons, though that’s partly because his team, the Cleveland Indians finished second or better seven times during his career.

Rube Marquard was key to the New York Giants during their pennant runs of the early 1910s, though the day the Veterans Committee voted him in might be the darkest in Hall of Fame history. I wrote last week of how the committee, led by Frisch railroaded in Marquard and six other players on January 31, 1971. Marquard wasn’t a former teammate of Frisch but he had no business getting a plaque and his selection reeks of cronyism. Aside from his splendid 1911-13 run, Marquard was rarely more than a journeyman, being worth -1.7 WAA with a 128-149 record his other 15 seasons. His 103 ERA+ is the worst of any Hall of Fame pitcher.

That being said, I’m not in favor of kicking anyone out. I wrote as much in noting the circumstances of Marquard’s enshrinement, saying it’d be cruel to remove anyone from Cooperstown and that there are worse things in life than a few lousy players being enshrined. I sent a link to my piece on to Fox Sports columnist Rob Neyer, hoping he’d pick it up. He did, even mentioning me by name in his piece, though it wasn’t the most flattering note. Rob wrote:

Yes, of course there are worse things in life. There are LOTS AND LOTS of worse things in life. There are worse things in life than someone spitting on the sidewalk. That doesn’t mean we should excuse spitting on the sidewalk.

More to the point, how would it be cruel to kick Rube Marquard out of the Hall of Fame? He died almost 25 years ago. Whatever you might think of our postmortem fates, it seems highly unlikely that today ol’ Rube gives a damn about the Hall of Fame, one way or the other. His grandchildren? Okay, sure. But I really don’t think it’s our place to worry about an old ballplayer’s grandkids, who should be old enough by now to take something like this in stride. I certainly wouldn’t be averse to some procedure that reconsidered long-dead Hall of Famers. Or hell, at the very least, revising their plaques (and their Web pages) when they’re clearly in error.

I like Rob’s idea to revise error-ridden Hall of Fame plaques. He wrote his piece primarily about the errors on Alexander Cartwright’s plaque that perpetuate the myth he’s baseball’s true founder and that he codified its rules. Knowledgeable folks like John Thorn have long since debunked these myths, but so long as they’re hanging in the Hall of Fame and easily accessible on its website, I imagine people will keep laying hold of them. It certainly caused a stir in the comments when readers here recently declined to name Cartwright one of the 25 most important people in baseball history.

I have a harder time supporting removing players from Cooperstown, for a number of reasons. Speaking as someone who’s gotten comments here from relatives of High Pockets Kelly, the Meusel Brothers and others, family members do care and what’s wrong with that? I also think the removals could quickly get out of control. This Los Angeles Times piece in support of the idea reads as if written by someone traipsing through, picking players at random. I love, but snap judgments might be the worst thing that website enables, even if I doubt its founder Sean Forman has that intent.

I have two other reasons for not wanting to kick players out of Cooperstown and they’re the same two reasons I’m okay with steroid users eventually being enshrined. First, nothing in life is perfect. I don’t see the point in demanding this of the Hall of Fame. It’s still an awesome museum, one I haven’t been to since childhood and can’t wait to see again. Beyond this, much as I consider the Hall of Fame a celebration of baseball’s greatest players, I see it as a record of its history, all of it. And baseball’s history includes the history of Cooperstown. Letting players who never should have been enshrined keep their plaques serves a valuable purpose. It reminds voters to do better in the future.

A healthy compromise might be to develop an inner circle for the Hall of Fame. I had readers vote on a 50-player inner circle a few years ago that could offer a good start. Cooperstown could even make annual updates, perhaps voted on by fans to stir interest, allowing the inner circle to become progressively greater as more legends are enshrined. If the Hall of Fame wants my help on developing this further, I’ll provide it free of charge.

The 10 oldest Hall of Famers upon being voted in

I wrote a few days ago that the Hall of Fame doesn’t have a great track record of honoring aging players. This was prompted by the Veterans Committee candidacy of Minnie Minoso who, depending on the source, is anywhere from 88 to 92. Even if Minoso’s listed birthday on of November 29, 1925 is correct, placing him just shy of his 89th birthday, he’d be the oldest living honoree ever for Cooperstown at the time of getting in, if it happens.

With the help of which lists the life spans of all Hall of Famers, here are the 10 oldest Hall of Famers at the time they were voted in:

1. Elmer Flick at 87 years, 16 days old on January 27, 1963

I’ve written before of Flick, a Deadball Era great nearly traded for a young Ty Cobb in 1907. Detroit lucked out on that one, as Flick contracted a stomach ailment that ended his career in 1910. All but forgotten by Cooperstown thereafter, save for one vote from the BBWAA in 1938, Flick was stunned when the Veterans Committee honored him. As my Twitter friend Vince Guerrieri told me, Flick thought Branch Rickey was fooling when he called to congratulate him. “I can’t believe it,” Flick said. “I had given up all hope. When Sam Crawford was voted in [in 1957], he sent me a letter and said he couldn’t see how he was getting in before me.”

2. Ed Barrow at 85 years, four months and 18 days old on September 28, 1953

Being voted into the Hall of Fame is valedictory. As a reader recently pointed out to me, excluding HOF players serving as coaches, only Connie Mack continued to work at the job that got him into Cooperstown after his induction. Legendary executive Ed Barrow worked for the New York Yankees until he was 77. But by the time the Veterans Committee selected Barrow in 1953, he’d been in ill health for many years and was about two months from dying. Barrow was posthumously inducted in August 1954, one of four Hall of Famers I know of besides Chief Bender, Eppa Rixey and Leon Day to die between being voted in and the next induction ceremony.

3. Rube Marquard at 84 years, three months and 22 days old on January 31, 1971

I hear proponents of a small Hall of Fame talk of kicking honorees out. I imagine they could start with Marquard, who got his plaque partly because he was featured in Lawrence Ritter’s 1966 book, The Glory of Their Times and partly because the Veterans Committee railroaded in seven new members the day it voted Marquard in. January 31, 1971 may rank as one of the most ethically-bankrupt days in Hall of Fame history. It reminds me of the danger when small groups– this iteration of the Veterans Committee had ten members— are given a lot of power. It’s one of the reasons I try to have as many people as I can vote in projects here.

But I think of how happy the news made Marquard, who was on a cruise at the time. He wrote to Ritter, who shared the letter in a preface to a 1984 edition of his classic. Marquard wrote:

Dear Larry:

I was the happiest and most surprised man in the world when I heard your voice yesterday telling me I was voted into the Hall of Fame. The reason I didn’t say anything for so long was that I couldn’t. I was all choked up and tears were running down my cheeks.

Yesterday evening, a few hours after you called, everybody was dancing and having a good time and suddenly the Captain of the ship stopped the music and said he wanted to make an important announcement. He said they had a very prominent man on board who had just been elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. His name is Rube Marquard and he is right here dancing with his wife.

Well, all hell broke loose, people yelling and clapping, and the band played ‘Take Me Out To The Ball Game.’ I was so happy and Jane just loved it too. When we go to Cooperstown this summer, please come with us and be my guest.

It’s hard, at least for me, to stay angry reading a letter like that. There are worse things in life than a few undeserving people being in the Hall of Fame, especially with all the joy the living ones must have felt when they got that call and later stood on the Cooperstown dais. I’m certainly not in favor of kicking anyone out. It seems cruel. It also seems pointless. Wipe the slate clean on the Hall of Fame and there’d be a lousy honoree within 10-15 years.

4. Happy Chandler at 83 years, seven months and 24 days old on March 10, 1982

Bowie Kuhn may rank as one of the more reviled figures in MLB history, baseball’s commissioner while Marvin Miller was leading the successful charge to take down the reserve clause. Here’s one thing Kuhn got right: leading the campaign to honor Chandler, who was commissioner at the time Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. That may seem insignificant, though the man Chandler succeeded, Kenesaw Mountain Landis did much to keep blacks out of the majors.

5. Harry Hooper at 83 years, five months and seven days old on January 31, 1971

Like Marquard, Hooper was interviewed for The Glory of Their Times and got in the day the Veterans Committee gave out plaques like it was going out of business. Hooper might be a slightly more deserving pick, having played in arguably the best defensive outfield of the Deadball Era with Tris Speaker and Duffy Lewis on the Boston Red Sox. My friend through the Society for American Baseball Research, Jacob Pomrenke told me a few months ago that one of Hooper’s sons campaigned heavily for his induction.

6. Tommy Connolly at 82 years, eight months and 28 days old on September 28, 1953

Longtime sportswriter Joe Williams wrote of Connolly, a few months before the Veterans Committee tabbed him, as the lone surviving member of the original American League staff. An umpire as well as a teacher and supervisor for other umps, Connolly’s career spanned 60-plus years. He worked the first World Series in 1903, at a time when umpires got $50 a game and paid their own travel expenses.

7. Lee MacPhail at 80 years, four months and six days old on March 3, 1998

Weird fact about MacPhail: The former American League president was on the board of directors for the Hall of Fame nearly a quarter century before he got his plaque. In the interim in 1978, his father Larry MacPhail, a groundbreaking executive was posthumously enshrined.

8. Bobby Wallace at 79 years, 10 months and 24 days old on September 28, 1953

Why Wallace and not his contemporary Bill Dahlen? Statistically, the two Deadball Era infielders are roughly equal: 110 OPS+ for Dahlen, 103 for Wallace; 139 defensive runs saved for Dahlen, 133 for Wallace. For stats that may have meant something to Veterans Committee voters at the time, Dahlen bested Wallace .272 to .268 in batting average, 2,461 to 2,309 in hits and 8,138 to 7,465 in assists, though he had more errors, 975 to 814.

Perhaps the Veterans Committee wanted to honor the living. While Dahlen died in 1950 after several years in retirement, Wallace scouted for the Reds into the early 1950s. Three of the other five men the Veterans Committee selected in 1953 were also still alive. Ironically though, none of the four attended the subsequent induction ceremony in 1954. Ed Barrow and Chief Bender died in the interim, while Wallace and Tommy Connolly were too ill to attend.

9. Dave Bancroft at 79 years, nine months and 11 days old on January 31, 1971

Bancroft’s defenders sometimes speak of him as a defensive wizard. This may be an exaggeration. According to the Play Index tool, Bancroft ranks 30th all-time among shortstops with 93 defensive runs saved above average. Among the 18 non-Hall of Famers ranked in front of him for this stat: Bill Dahlen, Jack Glasscock and Art Fletcher, all of whom had better bats. As has been widely noted, Bancroft’s former teammate Frankie Frisch was on the ten-member Veterans Committee that voted him in, as was Bill Terry.

10. Doug Harvey at 79 years, eight months and 24 days old on December 7, 2009

Harvey’s page at the Hall of Fame website lists him as the ninth umpire enshrined, with Hank O’Day bringing the number to 10 in 2013. “This much is indisputable,” Hal Bodley wrote for USA Today upon Harvey’s retirement in 1992. “Harvey is one of the best umpires the game has seen. He’s a Hall of Famer, period.” It’s a wonder it took another 17 years for Harvey to get his plaque.

Death and the Hall of Fame

With Hall of Fame voting season upon us, a couple of friends from Twitter have incorporated Minnie Minoso into their usernames. The American League and Negro League star is one of 10 nominees being considered by the Veterans Committee. Results will be announced December 8, though I’m not hugely optimistic for Minoso. While I think he belongs and will eventually get in, the Hall of Fame doesn’t have a great track record honoring aging players, with death too often the impetus for a player being enshrined. My fear is that it will take guilt over Minoso’s death for him to get in. It happened with Ron Santo and it’s occurred a number of other times as well.

With the help of Baseball Reference, which has a nifty feature showing birth and death years of all Hall of Fame honorees, I looked at the 20 people who’ve been inducted within three years of death. Hall of Fame candidates have regularly received renewed attention after dying. Arguably, death has even gotten a few people enshrined.

The 20 people elected within three years of death are as follows:

  • George Wright, elected 1937: A baseball pioneer, Wright died August 21, 1937 at age 90 and was selected to the Hall of Fame on December 7 of that year by the Centennial Commission. His brother Harry Wright wasn’t elected until 1953 by the Veterans Committee.
  • John McGraw, elected 1937: The legendary manager died in 1934 and was selected in 1937 by the Veterans Committee, the committee’s only selection until 1953.
  • Kenesaw Mountain Landis, inducted 1944: The first MLB commissioner was unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame on December 10, 1944, just 15 days after his death.
  • Jimmy Collins, elected 1945: Bob Stedler, sports editor of the Buffalo [N.Y.] Evening News began a campaign for Buffalo native Collins’ induction two months before his death in March 1943. An AP story on the campaign noted, “In the opinion of Stedler, who has been writing sports for four decades, the comparative youngsters who are now writing baseball and whose votes select the stars for places in [Cooperstown] should have someone call their attention to the merits of a standout whom they never saw.” A special Old Timers Committee enshrined Collins and 20 others between 1945 and 1946.
  • Roger Bresnahan, elected 1945: Similar with Collins, the Old Timers Committee selected Bresnahan in January 1945, shortly after his death on December 4, 1944. The Associated Press said both men stood “the best chance to enter the charmed circle this time. Their deaths within the past year have focused fans’ attention on them and their historic diamond exploits.” Bill James noted that Bresnahan’s help in devoloping catcher shin guards also helped get him in Cooperstown.
  • Herb Pennock, elected 1948: Pennock received Hall of Fame votes seven years between 1937 and 1947, rising to 53.4 percent of the BBWAA vote in 1947. He was voted into Cooperstown just four weeks after his sudden death at 53 on January 30, 1948. An ace pitcher during the Yankees Murderers Row years, Pennock may rate as one of the least impressive Hall of Fame selections for sabermetrics, with a 106 ERA+ and 44.1 WAR.
  • Three Finger Brown, elected 1949: Somehow, the Old Timers Committee missed Brown in its mass of elections between 1945 and 1946. Shortly after Brown died in February 1948, Grantland Rice wrote, “Certainly, a group of stars that doesn’t carry the names of Mordecai ‘Three Finger’ Brown and Kid Nichols can’t be called complete.” The committee made Brown and Nichols its final two selections in 1949.
  • Harry Heilmann, elected 1952: A .342 lifetime hitter, Heilmann figured in 12 Hall of Fame elections between 1937 and 1951, rising to 67.7 percent of the vote in 1951. Usually, anyone who gets at least 60 percent but less than the necessary 75 percent of the vote with the writers will be enshrined not long thereafter. After Heilmann was diagnosed with cancer later in 1951, three newspaper writers organized a push to get him immediately honored by the Veterans Committee. Though that failed, with Heilmann dying on July 9 at 56, the BBWAA elected him the following year with 86.8 percent of the vote.
  • Bill Klem, elected 1953: Perhaps as compensation for not honoring Heilmann, the Veterans Committee selected six people on September 28, 1953, the most people it’s elected in one year aside from 1971. Klem, who died in 1951 and ranks as perhaps the most well-known umpire in baseball history, got in. So did ailing, 84-year-old Ed Barrow, the longtime Yankees executive, who would die December 15.  It’s worth noting that prior to 1953, the committee had only enshrined one person, McGraw, in 1937 so maybe it was itching to get some deserving candidates in.
  • Rabbit Maranville, elected 1954: The Deadball Era shortstop and hero of the 1914 Boston Braves had steadily gained in votes through 13 years of Hall of Fame elections, rising to 62.1 percent of the vote in 1953. Like Heilmann, I think Maranville would have eventually gotten in regardless of his death. That said, Maranville has one of the shortest windows between death and induction of any Hall of Famer. He died January 5, 1954 and was elected by the BBWAA with 82.9 percent of the vote on January 21. Grantland Rice wrote in a column that ran January 15 calling for Maranville’s induction, “[Johnny] Evers is in the Hall of Fame. [Joe] Tinker is in the Hall of Fame. I hope The Rabbit is on his way to the same place. You can’t leave that much heart out and call it a Hall of Fame.”
  • Eppa Rixey, elected 1963: Notified of his Hall of Fame induction on January 27, 1963, Rixey died a month later of a heart attack at 71 and was posthumously inducted in August.
  • Branch Rickey, elected 1967: Groundbreaking executive, died in 1965.
  • Will Harridge, elected 1972: American President 1931-59, died in 1971.
  • Roberto Clemente, elected 1973: Died New Years Eve 1972, standard five-year waiting period waved so he could be inducted.
  • Larry MacPhail, elected 1978: Among the better general managers in baseball history, died in 1975.
  • Warren Giles, elected 1979: National League president 1951-69, died February 7, 1979, selected by the Veterans Committee on March 7 of that year.
  • Leo Durocher, elected 1994: It’s a wonder it took Leo the Lip as long as it did to get in Cooperstown. Durocher, who died in 1991, ranks fifth all-time among managers with 2,009 wins and was instrumental in helping a young Willie Mays find his place in baseball. Then again, the Hall of Fame is fairly fickle with managers, with just 23 enshrined.
  • Leon Day, elected 1995: Adam Penale told me on Twitter that Day, a star of the Negro League learned of his Hall of Fame selection just six days before his death in March 1995. Day’s SABR bio has more. Reached at his hospital bed, Day said, “I thought this day would never come. I’m feeling pretty good. I’m so happy, I don’t know what to do.” Day was posthumously inducted in the summer.
  • Bowie Kuhn, elected 2008: MLB commissioner 1969-84, died in 2007.
  • Ron Santo, elected 2012: Joe Posnanski wrote shortly after Santo’s death in December 2010, “The structure and standards of the committee changed so that in the last 10 or more years the Veteran’s Committee has turned into a grumpy bunch of scrooges who seemed to come out once a year for the expressed purpose of not voting for Ron Santo or Marvin Miller.” The sub-committee handling Santo’s era voted him in at its next meeting in December 2011.

A nice story about Doug Glanville

I was pleasantly surprised the other day to see former baseball player, ESPN commentator and writer Doug Glanville announced as a candidate to manage the Tampa Bay Rays. I’ve admired Doug’s thoughtful, engaging writing for a long time, maybe a decade. I also have a personal connection to Doug that I haven’t shared here, though I thought the time might be right.

As an independent baseball blogger, I sometimes devise unusual methods to promote my work. In the past, I wrote a weekly column here called “Any player/Any era” where I projected players into different eras than the ones they played in. A couple of years ago, having interacted with Doug once or twice through Twitter, I thought he’d be interested to hear I’d be writing one of these columns on him. Doug was receptive, answering a few questions while I researched the piece. He had nice things to say about the end product, too and within a few months, we were following each other on Twitter.

Around this time, I went through a rough stretch with employment, being unable to consistently pay my bills. I sometimes will stay quiet during such stretches, as they’re embarrassing, though I decided to speak up this time on Twitter. Doug caught site of my tweet as follows:

The best was yet to come.

Shortly thereafter, Doug messaged me asking where I’d want to write, if I could do so anywhere. Would if every struggling writer could get one of these messages. I was so excited I called my parents at 6:30 a.m. to tell them. That probably wasn’t my best idea, as parents worry when they get calls from or about their kids so early in the morning. Still, I couldn’t hide how I was feeling.

After thinking about it briefly, I told Doug of a few places I might like to write, including the San Francisco Chronicle. Doug said he’d email the sports editor. While Doug wasn’t the only person who put in a good word for me, he’s part of the reason I wound up freelancing for the Chronicle for about a year. [A collection of my Chronicle stories can be found here, by the way.]

With sabermetrics staking more and more of a place in the baseball world, the job of a manager is changing. For some teams, managing is less these days about devising in-game strategies [front office employees and computers can do that] than it is about managing the various personalities that play for any given team. Managing is about offering encouragement to a collection of mostly 20- and 30-something-year-old players, getting the best out of them, helping them to believe they’re capable of more than they have been heretofore.

Doug did this for me and while I don’t know if that means he’d make a good big league manager, I like to think it does.

The 25 most important people in baseball history

Full voting results for this project can be found here. A list of the 262 voters for this project can be found here.

More than 17,000 people have played Major League Baseball. Countless others have contributed to the game from working in front offices to writing about baseball and more. It’s hard to say who matters most, players or everyone else and it’s an age-old debate. Personally, I believe both groups are important. Few people can play at the highest level. And without a range of support, they wouldn’t do so professionally, at least not in a league that generates close to $10 billion annually.

That said, I decided recently to take this debate public. I spent several weeks asking anyone interested to select the 25 most important people in baseball history. I distributed a 190-person reference ballot with write-in candidates welcome and anyone eligible. There wasn’t a set criteria for importance. I prefer that voters for my projects work independently and make their own determinations.

In all, 262 people voted in this project. Here’s how the top 25 came out:

Babe Ruth, 1921 | Library of Congress
Babe Ruth, 1921 | Library of Congress

1. Babe Ruth, 259 votes out of 262

It’s difficult to overstate Babe Ruth’s importance to baseball.

The Boston Red Sox sold Ruth to the New York Yankees months after the 1919 World Series. While that Fall Classic is the most infamous example of players rigging games, gambling had long polluted baseball. The 1905, 1914 and 1917 World Series all had rumors of gambler presence.

Baseball needed saviors in 1920. It got Kenesaw Mountain Landis as commissioner and he immediately began banning crooked players. And baseball got its greatest star, perhaps the greatest star of any sport ever.

With Landis acting with autocratic precision and Ruth out-homering entire teams– 14 of 16 in 1920, for instance– baseball quickly transformed, becoming more popular than ever. If that sounds like hyperbole, consider that while no team attracted 1,000,000 fans in a season before 1920, three broke the mark in the ’20s with a number of other teams seeing spikes in attendance.

One can only wonder what might have been without Landis or Ruth– especially Ruth, who was always larger than life, ideally suited to be baseball’s king.

Jackie Robinson | Library of Congress
A 1951 comic book | Library of Congress

2. Jackie Robinson, 257 votes out of 262

The impetus for this project came after Ken Burns referred to Jackie Robinson as “the most important person in the history of baseball.”

I think voters for this project got it right, though that’s not to take anything away from Robinson. His breaking of baseball’s 63-year color barrier in 1947 is one of the greatest stories of any sport. Robinson then forged a legit Hall of Fame career, with his contributions above stats actually making him a little underrated.

Like Ruth, Robinson transformed baseball for the better. And like Ruth, baseball’s fate hung in the balance with Robinson. Branch Rickey knew when he signed Robinson that the wrong player could set back integration in the majors by 20 years. Robinson’s stoicism as he endured systemic verbal abuse his first two years with the Dodgers paved the way for numerous star black players.

3. Branch Rickey, 224 votes out of 262

Many people spoke of signing black players between 1884 and 1947. John McGraw had a list of players he wished he could sign. Bill Veeck tried to buy the Philadelphia Phillies in 1942 and stock the team with black stars, but commissioner Landis scuttled his plans.

Perhaps Landis’s death in 1944 and the looming civil rights movement made integration in baseball inevitable. That said, Branch Rickey helped accelerate the process by signing Robinson to the Brooklyn Dodgers in October 1945. Where others spoke, dreamed or quietly accepted the injustice of baseball’s color line, Rickey acted. It didn’t just benefit Robinson. Every black player in the majors before 1970 owes at least part of his career to Rickey.

If helping integrate baseball had been Rickey’s sole contribution, he might make this list. He rates so highly for everything else he did, including: creating baseball’s farm system while general manager of the St. Louis Cardinals; hiring the game’s first sabermetrician, Allan Roth in 1947; and helping spur baseball’s expansion by getting involved in 1959 with a proposed third league, the Continental League.

4. [tie] Hank Aaron, 195 votes out of 262

Much as some people despise Barry Bonds, he encountered nothing of the same vitriol Hank Aaron did in breaking the career home run record. Aaron spent 1973 receiving hate mail as he chased Ruth’s 714 homers. It got so bad that in spring training in 1974, with Aaron still one homer shy of Ruth, the Braves hired Atlanta Police Department detective sergeant Calvin Wardlaw as Aaron’s bodyguard. Aaron, typically low-key, played it down saying, “Ah, he’s a friend of mine and he’s on vacation down here anyway.”

Aaron got his record, cherished enough that some still consider him home run champion. Late in 1974, Aaron also gave an interview where he decried the lack of black managers, telling reporters:

I don’t think baseball has moved as far as it should have since Jackie Robinson’s time. Facts are facts. We have Monte Irvin in the Commissioner’s office and we have Bill Lucas in the front office [of the Atlanta Braves] and that’s all.

There’ve been four managerial changes so far this year and a black man wasn’t considered for any of them. To be absolutely honest about it, I wouldn’t like to manage. But I know other blacks in baseball who would, and could.

Nine days later, the Cleveland Indians named Frank Robinson player-manager.

Kenesaw Mountain Landis [Library of Congress]
Judge Landis, 1924 | Library of Congress
4. [tie] Kenesaw Mountain Landis, 195 votes out of 262

Kenesaw Mountain Landis is the highest-ranked person here whose impact on baseball was both significantly positive and negative.

On one hand, Landis’ role in excising gambling from the majors after the 1919 World Series cannot be denied. The job of commissioner was created for him, to replace the three-man National Commission. Seventy years after the former federal judge’s death, he remains the standard for commissioners. As longtime baseball writer Fred Lieb noted in his 1977 memoir Baseball As I Have Known It, “None of the men who succeeded him has had anything like the Judge’s czarlike authority and domination.”

That said, Landis may have done more than any man in his lifetime to keep baseball segregated. While it’s no surprise someone named for a Civil War battlefield held bigoted views common to his time, a more progressive commissioner may have allowed Negro League legends like Josh Gibson, Oscar Charleston and Cool Papa Bell into the majors. The quality of play in the majors suffered for Landis’s racism.

Ty Cobb, 1913 | Library of Congress
Ty Cobb, 1913 | Library of Congress

6. Ty Cobb, 179 votes out of 262

Some people may forget that in the first Hall of Fame election, Ty Cobb finished first with 98.2 percent of the vote. Just four voters failed to select Cobb on their ballots. Early Hall of Fame elections were chaotic, with all players eligible and 30-40 future HOFers generally receiving votes. Still, one must wonder what those Cobb-less ballots looked like.

Cobb’s overwhelming Hall of Fame support was a credit to his much-celebrated 4,191 hits, .367 lifetime batting average [though there is some dispute over these stats] and more. Some fun facts with Cobb include that he won 12 batting titles in a 13-season span, hit .387 for the 1910s and once smacked five home runs in two days after saying he could hit homers if he tried. One newspaper writer noted after Cobb’s home run binge:

All the old fellows in the American League and some of the young ones, too, are crowing raucously and joyously because of the stunts Ty Cobb is doing with the bat. It is the reaction of ball players who have had Babe Ruth’s feats waved before their eyes until they have covertly expressed their annoyance.

7. Marvin Miller, 175 votes out of 262

The Veterans Committee has famously turned down Marvin Miller several times. I’m curious how much longer it takes for Cooperstown to honor the late Miller, who served as executive director of the Major League Baseball Players Association from 1966 until 1982. I doubt any person in the past 50 years has done as much to change baseball as Miller, who led the charge to topple the game’s reserve clause in the 1970s. Baseball’s more equitable for his efforts.

8. Bill James, 159 votes out of 262

I’ll admit it. It may look absurd that a former amateur statistician and one-time pork and beans factory night watchman got more votes for this project than many of the men listed below him and plenty more who didn’t make this list. That seems oddly appropriate for paying tribute to Bill James, who’s made a career of spurning conventional baseball wisdom and encouraging people to think differently.

While James’ methods and findings have sometimes been unorthodox, they’ve been used to great effect by teams like the Boston Red Sox and Oakland Athletics. James has also inspired countless baseball researchers and writers. Sean Forman, founder of [who, by the way, finished 47th in voting here] told me via email:

Bill James is the central figure of sabermetrics and always will be just as Shakespeare is the central figure in English Literature.  All of the work that preceded him fed into his work and all that follows flows from what he did.

9. Ted Williams, 155.5 votes out of 262

Between being baseball’s most recent .400 hitter, winning two Triple Crowns and writing “The Science of Hitting,” Ted Williams might be the most famous hitter ever. He batted .344 lifetime and was remarkably consistent, offering roughly equal adjusted rates of offensive production for both halves of his career, a 193 OPS+ for his first nine seasons and a 187 OPS+ for his final ten.

Without service in two wars costing him roughly five seasons, Williams also may have broken Ruth’s home run record. I have Williams at 668 homers without military service and I assume Williams would have played longer than 1960 if he’d had a reasonable chance to catch Ruth. After all, the Splendid Splinter had an offer to pinch hit for the Yankees in 1961.

There’s more to Williams’ legacy than hitting, though. In his Hall of Fame induction speech in 1966, Williams said, “I hope that some day Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson will be voted into the Hall of Fame as symbols of the great Negro League players who are not here only because they weren’t given the chance.” Negro League inductions began five years later.

10. [tie] Willie Mays, 141 votes out of 262

The Say Hey Kid’s low rank strikes me, as he’s dominated two of my previous projects. In 2012, Mays got the most votes for a proposed Hall of Fame inner circle. Mays was also selected in 2012 as center fielder for an all-time dream team, besting Ty Cobb by a 4-1 margin in votes. I’m not sure what led to the switch this time, though I didn’t have Mays in a personal top ten list I that posted in September. Perhaps that influenced votes.

So we’re clear, I think Mays or Ruth is the greatest player in baseball history. I go back and forth on this, but it’s clearly a two-man race to me. Robert Creamer said in an interview here in January 2012 that Mays was the best player he covered, noting, “He could rise to a pitch of intensity that was almost unbelievable, creating an excitement that I have never forgotten.” Like Williams, Mays also may have broken Ruth’s home run record without missing time for military service.

But this project is about more than simply being a magnificent player. While I set no parameters, encouraging voters to determine their own criteria for importance, there seems to be a trend of honoring people who made contributions beyond the playing field. It’s hard to find anything Mays did to transcend baseball beyond playing it better than anyone of his era, if not ever.

10. [tie] Curt Flood, 141 votes out of 262

Reading votes for this project, I was reminded how many people were at least peripherally related to the fight to end baseball’s reserve clause. To name a few, there are Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally, at the center of the 1975 arbitration case that led to free agency. There’s Catfish Hunter, who became a free agent because of a contract glitch in 1974, though it’s worth adding his case set no precedent. Then there are lesser-known figures such as New York Giants outfielder Danny Gardella who sued baseball challenging the reserve clause after being barred for jumping to the Mexican League in 1946.

For all the important figures of baseball’s labor movement, though, Curt Flood gets a lion’s share of the attention even if he was unsuccessful in his efforts. Flood’s refusal to report to the Philadelphia Phillies after a trade in December 1969 and his subsequent lawsuit against baseball to challenge its reserve clause effectively ended his career. It’s a common misconception that Flood’s case ended the clause. Flood lost 5-3 in the Supreme Court on June 6, 1972 and the reserve clause and baseball’s exemption to anti-trust laws remained. That said, Flood helped affect change.

While it can be argued that arbitrator Peter Seitz acted independently of Flood’s case when he abrogated the reserve clause in 1975, creating free agency, Flood’s case cast attention. It also had an unexpected benefit for players, as noted in this New York Times piece: It gave owners false confidence heading into the McNally-Messersmith case.

12. Lou Gehrig, 120 votes out of 262

Lou Gehrig slides into home | Library of Congress
Lou Gehrig slides into home | Library of Congress

Most consecutive games played until Cal Ripken Jr. Gave best speech in baseball history. Arguably the greatest first baseman of all-time.

Rather than say more, I encourage people to read what Frank Graham Jr. wrote for my all-time dream team project about his boyhood friendship with Gehrig.

13. Al Spalding, 116 votes out of 262

With Abner Doubleday long since debunked as baseball’s founder and Alexander Cartwright’s status as the game’s true founder dismissed in recent years, there’s a question of who could rank as baseball’s most important 19th century figure and pioneer. The honor could go to Spalding, a Hall of Fame executive, one of baseball’s first star players and a sporting goods magnate.

As John Thorn wrote in Baseball in the Garden of Eden, Spalding also backed the Abraham G. Mills Commission which anointed Doubleday as baseball’s founder in 1908. Thorn wrote:

It has turned out that Spalding and Chadwick– like the calculated exponents of Doubleday and Cartwright– were not mere liars and blowhards. They were conscious architects of legend… They were trying to create a national mythology from baseball, which they identified as America’s secular religion because it seemed to support faith for the faithless and unify them, perhaps in a way that might suit other ends. If in the process of crafting this useful past, certain individuals, events, ball clubs– even competing versions of the game, like those played in New England or Pennsylvania– had to be left along the road in the name of progress, so be it.

As a footnote, Thorn wrote of four people with a better claim to inventing baseball than anyone mentioned thus far: Doc Adams, William H. Tucker, Louis Wadsworth and William R. Wheaton.

14. Dr. Frank Jobe, 110.5 votes out of 262

Not counting Al Spalding or Babe Ruth– or Ted Williams or Ty Cobb, who each pitched briefly in the majors– Jobe got more votes here than any pitcher. In a sense, the doctor who developed Tommy John Surgery in 1974 and, later, reconstructive shoulder surgery is responsible for more wins than anyone. David Schoenfield noted for upon Jobe’s death in March that more than 500 pitchers have had Tommy John Surgery. Jobe isn’t in Cooperstown, though some like Schoenfield think he belongs.

15. [tie] Ban Johnson, 108 votes out of 262

Since its founding in 1876, the National League has faced many competing leagues. Most have quickly disappeared, such as the Union Association of 1884 which had teams that didn’t make it through the season. Ban Johnson established the only competitor that’s lasted, transforming the minor Western League into the American League in 1901. Johnson steered his circuit well enough for it to survive an ensuing war with the National League over the next two years. When peace was settled, he helped institute the World Series.

Cy Young [Library of Congress]
Cy Young, 1909 | Library of Congress
15. [tie] Cy Young, 108 votes out of 262

With few exceptions, Deadball Era pitchers were done in their mid-30s. Christy Mathewson, Kid Nichols and Ed Walsh all last pitched at 36. Chief Bender and Rube Waddell left the majors at 33.

Cy Young, however, pitched until age 44. As such, he holds records for wins, losses, games, innings pitched and a staggering 29,565 batters faced. No active pitcher has faced half as many. There’s a reason the top award for pitchers is named for Cy Young.

15. [tie] Henry Chadwick, 108 votes out of 262

The Bill James of 19th century baseball statisticians, Chadwick modernized the box score and invented a number of basic stats, such earned run average, batting average and the RBI. Chadwick has been in the Hall of Fame since 1939, one reason I think James will eventually be enshrined.

15. [tie] Roberto Clemente, 108 votes out of 262

The Pittsburgh Pirates plucked Roberto Clemente from the Brooklyn Dodgers’ farm system in the rule 5 draft in 1954 after Clemente hit .257 for Montreal. Clemente needed several more years to become a star, hitting .282 with an 89 OPS+ through 1959 for Pittsburgh. A weird thing happened, however, as Clemente aged– he got better as conditions for hitters grew significantly more challenging. After the size of the strike zone was increased in January 1963, causing run totals to plummet, Clemente hit .331 with a 149 OPS+ over his final 10 seasons, winning three of his four batting titles.

Clemente built a reputation beyond hitting, too. A cannon-armed right fielder, he won 12 consecutive Gold Gloves and, according to the Play Index tool, Clemente’s 205 defensive runs saved are fifth-best in baseball history. Clemente was also a veteran leader for Pittsburgh until his death in a 1972 plane crash. He had been en route to help victims of an earthquake in Nicaragua. Appropriately, baseball’s annual humanitarian award is named in Clemente’s honor.

19. [tie] Barry Bonds, 107 votes out of 262

19. [tie] Pete Rose, 107 votes out of 262

It seems fitting that two of the more controversial players in baseball history would wind up tied here. Barry Bonds and Pete Rose are both regulars in another project I do having people vote on the 50 best players not in the Hall of Fame. For what it’s worth, I predicted recently that Bonds and Rose will both be in Cooperstown within 20 years.

I see a special steroid era committee enshrining all-time home run leader Bonds and a number of other players like Roger Clemens and Mark McGwire who, for better or worse, defined and dominated their era. In addition, Bonds was a Hall of Famer before he likely began using performance enhancing drugs. Bonds’ use of steroids obscures that younger version of him. In a sense, Bonds is underrated.

As for all-time hits leader Rose, someone who admitted to betting on games his teams played in is less attractive as a Hall of Fame candidate than a steroid user. But there’s no proof Rose bet on his teams to lose. Rose’s actions, while egregious, aren’t on the same level of Shoeless Joe Jackson, who took $5,000 to help throw the 1919 World Series. Time diminishes outrage, too. I see Rose being inducted by the Veterans Committee shortly after his death.

21. Bud Selig, 105 votes out of 262

Say what you will about Bud Selig who will retire in January after 23 years as baseball commissioner. He’s extremely polarizing and he’s presided over some of baseball’s darkest moments in the past quarter century, notably the 1994 strike and the steroid era.

Some like Tom Verducci of Sports Illustrated have laid blame for steroid use in baseball on players, noting that baseball banned steroids in 1991 and that the players union wouldn’t agree to testing until 2004. Selig deserves some share of the blame in my book. Major League Baseball had to have some idea what its players were up to. It was on Selig to blow the whistle, ask for federal help, perhaps from the Drug Enforcement Agency to address baseball’s steroid problem.

Instead, Selig placed profitability first and that, ultimately, relates to what he will be remembered for. As CEO, in effect, of a multi-billion dollar enterprise, Selig has been very successful. Total MLB revenues were around $1.2 billion annually– about $2 billion in 2014 dollars– when Selig became acting commissioner in 1992. Today, MLB revenues are around $9 billion annually. From a pure business standpoint, Bud Selig is the best commissioner in baseball history and it isn’t close. He’ll be in the Hall of Fame soon, this year, maybe next.

22. Satchel Paige, 99 votes out of 262

A retired scout once asked me to name the most durable pitcher in baseball history. I thought for a moment and suggested Walter Johnson. “Nolan Ryan!” the scout chortled and our conversation was effectively over. I thought more about it later and it occurred to me that the answer had to be Satchel Paige. The legendary hurler debuted in 1926 and was pitching in exhibitions as late as 1969, estimating he won 2,000 games. Counting exhibition play, he might be the only pitcher to strike out Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron.

23. [tie] Bill Veeck, 95 votes out of 262

He wasn’t the most successful owner, not by a long shot. He might not have been the most creative one either, with Charlie Finley and Chris von der Ahe each giving him a run for this honor. But Bill Veeck was a masterful enough promoter and showman to still be talked about more than 50 years since he did anything of note, aside of course from his role in the infamous Disco Demolition Night of 1979.

Finer moments for Veeck include helping break the American League color barrier in July 1947 by signing Larry Doby, giving Satchel Paige a long overdue shot in the majors, having midget Eddie Gaedel hit, creating the exploding scoreboard and building pennant winners with the Cleveland Indians and Chicago White Sox.

Connie Mack [Library of Congress]
Connie Mack | Library of Congress
23. [tie] John McGraw, 95 votes out of 262

25. Connie Mack, 94 votes out of 262

It’s hard to choose the best manager in baseball history. Joe McCarthy, who never had a losing season, has the top winning percentage at .615. Readers here selected Casey Stengel as manager for the all-time dream project. Tony LaRussa, meanwhile, got the most votes of any write-in candidate in this project with 19. I’ve found a person will get three to four times as many votes, sometimes more, if they’re on the ballot for my projects, so it’s conceivable LaRussa would be the top-ranked manager here if I’d included him.

I don’t know if I see LaRussa getting more votes, though, than McGraw or Mack who’ve had more than a century to build their lore. Mack has nearly 1,000 more credited wins than any manager in baseball history, sitting on the Philadelphia Athletics bench until months before his 88th birthday in 1950. He built [and for economic reasons dismantled] two dynasties, winning nine pennants and five championships. While Mack had few winning teams and was mostly a figurehead after 1932, McGraw stayed competitive throughout his 33 years managing the New York Giants and Baltimore Orioles. He had just four losing years, winning 10 pennants and three championships.


Approximately 332 people received at least one vote in this project. Full voting results can be found here.

Thanks again to everyone who voted. Names of the 262 voters are listed here

To see people explain their votes, make sure to check out these posts.

Voting results

Below are full voting results for my project on the 25 most important people in baseball history.

The following chart contains 350 names, in alphabetical order of first name: 172 who appeared on a ballot I provided and received at least vote; 18 who appeared on the ballot and didn’t receive any votes; and another 160 people who received write-in votes.

A total of 262 people voted in this project. Their names can be found here. I’ll also provide a link to the original ballot and my personal top ten, from September.

Rank Person Votes Notes
220-tie Aaron Chapman 1 Write-in
149-tie Abner Doubleday 3 Write-in
220-tie Abraham G. Mills 1
170-tie Al Reach 2 Write-in
13 Al Spalding 116
170-tie Albert Pujols 2
217-tie Albert Von Tilzer 1.5 Write-in
101-tie Alex Rodriguez 9
35 Alexander Cartwright 65
220-tie Alexander Chadwick 1 Write-in
220-tie Alexander Cleland 1 Write-in
170-tie Alfred H. Spink 2 Write-in
220-tie Alfred Reach 1 Write-in
75-tie Allan Roth 15
220-tie Amos Rusie 1 Write-in
115-tie Andy Messersmith 6 Write-in
220-tie Archie Ward 1 Write-in
115-tie Arnold Rothstein 6 Write-in
220-tie Augie Bush 1 Write-in
1 Babe Ruth 259
15-tie Ban Johnson 108
170-tie Barney Dreyfuss 2 Write-in
19-tie Barry Bonds 107
71-tie Bart Giamatti 17
220-tie Bernie Williams 1 Write-in
170-tie Bill Buckner 2 Write-in
220-tie Bill Doak 1 Write-in
8 Bill James 159
115-tie Bill Klem 6
149-tie Bill Mazeroski 3
220-tie Bill Miller 1 Write-in
23-tie Bill Veeck 95
220-tie Bill White 1 Write-in
170-tie Billy Bean 2 Write-in
81-tie Billy Beane 14 Write-in
170-tie Billy Martin 2 Write-in
136-tie Bo Jackson 4
220-tie Bob Bowman 1 Write-in
71-tie Bob Feller 17
64-tie Bob Gibson 20
220-tie Bob Howsam 1 Write-in
220-tie Bob Uecker 1 Write-in
220-tie Bob Watson 1 Write-in
220-tie Bobby Cox 1 Write-in
220-tie Bobby Murcer 1 Write-in
170-tie Bobby Thomson 2
57-tie Bowie Kuhn 27
3 Branch Rickey 224
170-tie Brooks Robinson 2
170-tie Bruce Sutter 2 Write-in
220-tie Bryce Harper 1 Write-in
170-tie Buck Leonard 2
41 Buck O’Neil 49
220-tie Bud Fowler 1 Write-in
21 Bud Selig 105
33 Cal Ripken Jr. 75
75-tie Candy Cummings 15
37 Cap Anson 55
169 Carl Mays 2.5 Write-in
220-tie Carl Stotz 1 Write-in
149-tie Carl Yastrzemski 3 Write-in
220-tie Carlton Fisk 1
40 Casey Stengel 50
56 Charles Comiskey 28
92-tie Charlie Finley 11 Write-in
136-tie Charlie Lau 4
136-tie Chris von der Ahe 4 Write-in
39 Christy Mathewson 52
149-tie Clark Griffith 3 Write-in
25 Connie Mack 94
170-tie Cool Papa Bell 2
220-tie Craig Calcaterra 1 Write-in
220-tie Cristobal Torriente 1 Write-in
170-tie Cumberland Posey 2
10-tie Curt Flood 141
220-tie Curt Gowdy 1 Write-in
15-tie Cy Young 108
220-tie Damon Runyon 1 Write-in
170-tie Daniel Okrent 2 Write-in
220-tie Danny Litwhiler 1 Write-in
220-tie Dave Cameron 1 Write-in
149-tie Dave McNally 3 Write-in
220-tie Dave Raymond 1 Write-in
109-tie Dave Smith 7
220-tie David Halberstam 1
170-tie David Ortiz 2 Write-in
220-tie Dennis Eckersley 1 Write-in
170-tie Denny McLain 2 Write-in
60 Derek Jeter 25
220-tie DeWolf Hopper 1
149-tie Dick Young 3
220-tie Dickie Pearce 1 Write-in
115-tie Dizzy Dean 6
125-tie Doc Adams 5 Write-in
220-tie Dock Ellis 1 Write-in
220-tie Don Larsen 1
220-tie Don Sutton 1 Write-in
220-tie Don Zimmer 1 Write-in
170-tie Donald Fehr 2 Write-in
NR Doris Kearns Goodwin 0
220-tie Dorothy Seymour Mills 1
125-tie Dummy Hoy 5
220-tie Dwight Gooden 1 Write-in
75-tie Earl Weaver 15
NR Earnshaw Cook 0
64-tie Ed Barrow 20
220-tie Edgar Martinez 1 Write-in
105-tie Effa Manley 8
NR Eleanor Engle 0
220-tie Emmanuel Cellar 1 Write-in
170-tie Emmett Ashford 2
149-tie Ernest Lanigan 3 Write-in
136-tie Ernest Lawrence Thayer 4
109-tie Ernie Banks 7
149-tie Ernie Harwell 3 Write-in
220-tie Fay Vincent 1 Write-in
170-tie Fernando Valenzuela 2 Write-in
220-tie Fidel Castro 1 Write-in
220-tie Firpo Marberry 1 Write-in
55 Ford Frick 29
14 Dr. Frank Jobe 110.5
43-tie Frank Robinson 46
220-tie Frank Thomas 1 Write-in
149-tie Frankie Frisch 3
220-tie Franklin D. Roosevelt 1 Write-in
136-tie Fred Lieb 4
220-tie Fred Merkle 1 Write-in
220-tie Gary Gillette 1
149-tie George Brett 3
220-tie George F. Cahill 1 Write-in
96-tie George Mitchell 10
28 George Steinbrenner 88
220-tie George Stoneman 1 Write-in
149-tie George Weiss 3 Write-in
170-tie George Wright 2 Write-in
170-tie Grantland Rice 2 Write-in
96-tie Greg Maddux 10
170-tie Grover Cleveland Alexander 2
220-tie Guglielmo Marconi 1 Write-in
170-tie Gus Greenlee 2
115-tie Hal Chase 6
4-tie Hank Aaron 195
48-tie Hank Greenberg 36
71-tie Happy Chandler 17
109-tie Dr. Harold Seymour 7
89-tie Harry Caray 12
136-tie Harry Frazee 4
36 Harry Wright 61
15-tie Henry Chadwick 108
105-tie Hideo Nomo 8 Write-in
NR Hilda Chester 0
220-tie HOK architects 1 Write-in
34 Honus Wagner 74
149-tie Horace Stoneham 3 Write-in
220-tie Horace Wilson 1 Write-in
220-tie Hoyt Wilhelm 1 Write-in
136-tie Hugh Fullerton 4
38 Ichiro Suzuki 54.5
220-tie Ila Borders 1
220-tie Ira Rothstein 1 Write-in
53-tie J.G. Taylor Spink 32
220-tie Jack Brickhouse 1 Write-in
170-tie Jack Buck 2 Write-in
220-tie Jack Chesbro 1 Write-in
NR Jack Morris 0
217-tie Jack Norworth 1.5 Write-in
NR Jackie Mitchell 0
2 Jackie Robinson 257
64-tie Colonel Jacob Ruppert 20
136-tie Dr. James Andrews 4 Write-in
NR Jean Faut 0
149-tie Jean Yawkey 3
220-tie Jeff Kent 1 Write-in
96-tie Jerome Holtzman 10
125-tie Jim Abbott 5
53-tie Jim Bouton 32
220-tie Jim Brosnan 1 Write-in
149-tie Jim Creighton 3
170-tie Jimmie Foxx 2
NR Joanne Weaver 0
NR Joe Carter 0
170-tie Joe Cronin 2 Write-in
26 Joe DiMaggio 93
220-tie Joe Garagiola 1 Write-in
136-tie Joe McCarthy 4 Write-in
170-tie Joe Morgan 2
220-tie Joe Spear 1 Write-in
101-tie Joe Torre 9
220-tie John “Bud” Hillerich 1 Write-in
125-tie John Dewan 5
220-tie John Holway 1 Write-in
220-tie John M. Dowd 1
23-tie John McGraw 95
48-tie John Montgomery Ward 36
220-tie John Paulson 1 Write-in
220-tie John T. Brush 1 Write-in
96-tie John Thorn 10
109-tie Johnny Bench 7
220-tie Johnny Podres 1
NR Johnny Sain 0
220-tie Jon Miller 1 Write-in
51 Jose Canseco 34
52 Josh Gibson 33
170-tie Juan Marichal 2 Write-in
NR Judy Johnson 0
NR Jules Tygiel 0
75-tie Ken Burns 15
89-tie Ken Griffey Jr. 12
220-tie Ken Holtzman 1 Write-in
4-tie Kenesaw Mountain Landis 195
220-tie Kevin Costner 1 Write-in
92-tie King Kelly 11
220-tie Kirby Puckett 1 Write-in
NR Kirk Gibson 0
75-tie L. Robert Davids 15
64-tie Larry Doby 20
220-tie Larry Luchino 1 Write-in
81-tie Larry MacPhail 14
115-tie Lawrence Ritter 6
220-tie Lee Allen 1 Write-in
149-tie Lefty Grove 3 Write-in
75-tie Lefty O’Doul 15
85-tie Leo Durocher 13
136-tie Lip Pike 4
NR Lizzie Arlington 0
220-tie Lizzie Murphy 1 Write-in
220-tie Lou Boudreau 1 Write-in
170-tie Lou Brock 2
12 Lou Gehrig 120
170-tie Lou Perini 2 Write-in
220-tie Luis Arroyo 1 Write-in
NR Margaret Donahue 0
101-tie Mariano Rivera 9 Write-in
220-tie Mark Fidrych 1 Write-in
63 Mark McGwire 22
7 Marvin Miller 175
170-tie Matsutaro Shoriki 2 Write-in
136-tie Maury Wills 4
105-tie Mel Allen 8
170-tie Mel Ott 2 Write-in
220-tie Michael Lewis 1
170-tie Michael Weiner 2 Write-in
27 Mickey Mantle 92
220-tie Miguel Cabrera 1 Write-in
109-tie Mike Schmidt 7
220-tie Mike Trout 1 Write-in
220-tie Miller Huggins 1 Write-in
170-tie Minnie Minoso 2 Write-in
220-tie Mitchel Lichtman 1 Write-in
170-tie Monte Irvin 2
220-tie Moonlight Graham 1 Write-in
170-tie Moses Fleetwood Walker 2 Write-in
125-tie Nap Lajoie 5
220-tie NBC 1 Write-in
170-tie Ned Hanlon 2 Write-in
46 Nolan Ryan 40
149-tie Old Hoss Radbourn 3 Write-in
57-tie Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. 27
115-tie Oscar Charleston 6
109-tie Ozzie Smith 7
NR Pam Postema 0
220-tie Patrick Hulbert 1 Write-in
136-tie Paul Krichell 4
220-tie Paul Molitor 1 Write-in
85-tie Pedro Martinez 13
170-tie Pee Wee Reese 2 Write-in
170-tie Pete Palmer 2
19-tie Pete Rose 107
220-tie Peter Gammons 1 Write-in
85-tie Peter Seitz 13
220-tie Peter Ueberroth 1 Write-in
170-tie Phil Rizzuto 2 Write-in
149-tie Phil Wrigley 3 Write-in
220-tie Rafael Palmeiro 1 Write-in
217-tie Ray Chapman 1.5 Write-in
81-tie Red Barber 14
220-tie Red Grange 1 Write-in
68-tie Red Smith 19
92-tie Reggie Jackson 11
220-tie Rick Monday 1 Write-in
57-tie Rickey Henderson 27
68-tie Ring Lardner 19
220-tie Rob Neyer 1 Write-in
NR Robert Creamer 0
220-tie Robert Moses 1 Write-in
15-tie Roberto Clemente 108
220-tie Rocky Colavito 1 Write-in
220-tie Rod Carew 1 Write-in
89-tie Roger Angell 12
101-tie Roger Bresnahan 9
92-tie Roger Clemens 11
149-tie Roger Kahn 3
71-tie Roger Maris 17
85-tie Rogers Hornsby 13
220-tie Rollie Fingers 1 Write-in
220-tie Ron Santo 1 Write-in
220-tie Ross Barnes 1 Write-in
125-tie Roy Campanella 5
NR Roz Wyman 0
31-tie Rube Foster 79
170-tie Russ Hodges 2
220-tie Ryne Sandberg 1 Write-in
61 Sadaharu Oh 23.5
220-tie Sam Lacy 1
115-tie Sammy Sosa 6
220-tie Sandy Alderson 1 Write-in
42 Sandy Koufax 46.5
22 Satchel Paige 99
115-tie Scott Boras 6 Write-in
47 Sean Forman 39
125-tie Sean Lahman 5
125-tie Sean Smith 5
43-tie Shoeless Joe Jackson 46
170-tie Sol White 2 Write-in
220-tie Sophie Kurys 1
170-tie Sparky Anderson 2 Write-in
220-tie Specs Toporer 1 Write-in
45 Stan Musial 45
81-tie Stephen Carlton Clark 14
220-tie Steve Bartman 1 Write-in
220-tie Steve Carlton 1 Write-in
170-tie Susan Fornoff 2
220-tie Susan Slusser 1
170-tie Sy Berger 2 Write-in
125-tie Ted Turner 5 Write-in
9 Ted Williams 155.5
220-tie Tim Lincecum 1 Write-in
125-tie Tom Seaver 5
220-tie Tom Tango 1 Write-in
149-tie Tom Yawkey 3 Write-in
100 Tommy John 9.5 Write-in
170-tie Tommy Lasorda 2 Write-in
220-tie Tommy McCarthy 1
125-tie Tony Gwynn 5
68-tie Tony LaRussa 19 Write-in
136-tie Tris Speaker 4
6 Ty Cobb 179
29 Vin Scully 86
220-tie Vladimir Guerrero 1 Write-in
220-tie Voros McCracken 1 Write-in
170-tie W.P. Kinsella 2 Write-in
220-tie Walter Alston 1 Write-in
31-tie Walter Johnson 79
30 Walter O’Malley 85
115-tie Warren Spahn 6
105-tie Wendell Smith 8
149-tie Whitey Ford 3 Write-in
62 William Hulbert 23
10-tie Willie Mays 141
48-tie Yogi Berra 36

Everyone who voted

Below is a list of the 262 people who voted in my project on the 25 most important people in baseball history.

A lot of voters provided details about themselves. Voters represent a broad cross-section of the baseball world: fans, researchers, journalists, bloggers, even a former MLB player.

Thanks again to everyone who voted!

Voter Credentials
Aaron Whitehead SABR member
Adam Darowski SABR member, chair of SABR’s Nineteenth Century Overlooked Base Ball Legends committee, and creator of the Hall of Stats
Adam Hardy
Adam Jacobi Baseball fan
Adam Penale
Adam Schiavone
Alex Molochko SABR member, reader
Alex Putterman Sports editor of the Daily Northwestern at Northwestern University
Alvy Singer Longtime baseball fan, avid fan of this website
Andrew Martin Author of Has published article for numerous websites, newspapers and magazine
Andrew Milner SABR member since 1984, IBWAA member, contributor to “American Sports: A History of Icons, Idols and Ideals” and “Base Ball: A Journal of the Early Game”
Andy Moursund Longtime SABR member, reader, former book dealer with perhaps the largest collection of baseball books and guides in the US
Anonymous 1
Antonio Rodriguez
Ari Houser
Austin Gisriel SABR member, regular contributor to, author of several baseball books
Bart Silberman Creator and designer of vintage MLB apparel line Moonlight Graham
Ben Carroll Writes
Ben Henry
Bernard Ozarowski
Bill Bell Founding member of a Strat-o-Matic league that will celebrate its 40th season in 2015; spent three months as ballboy for the 1969 Phoenix Giants
Bill Bumgarner “Just a fan who enjoys statistical analysis”
Bill Judge
Billy Waller Hall of Fame enthusiast; high school basketball coach and program director at a Boys and Girls Club
Bob D’Angelo Copy editor, Tampa Tribune
Bob Rittner Baseball fan with an interest in baseball history and sabermetrics
Bob Sawyer Became a SABR member in 2005; author of “Gene Bennett: A Scouts Life” chapter of CAN HE PLAY (c) 2012 McFarland
Bob Sohm
Bob Timmermann
Bob Tufts Former pitcher SF Giants and KC Royals 1981-83
Bobby Aguilera Writes; by day, a sales and marketing director
Brad Wood
Brendan Bingham SABR member, authored chapter for “Bridging Two Dynasties: The 1947 New York Yankees”
Brennan Cully
Brian Cubbison Curator, Syracuse Post Standard
Brian Engelhardt
Brian Russell
Bryan O’Connor Blogger at Replacement Level Baseball Blog and High Heat Stats
Bryn Swartz Bleacher Report Featured Columnist / Former MLB & Phillies blogger
Cecilia Tan SABR member and editor; author of several books
Charles Beatley Wrote
Chris Esser
Chris Murray, fantasy sports guru, sports memorabilia collector
Christian Ruzich
Christopher Kamka SABR member; Comcast SportsNet Chicago’s walking research department; Contributed an essay in- Old Comiskey Park: Essays and Memories of the Historic Home of the Chicago White Sox, 1910-1991
Christopher M. Short UK-born convert to baseball from cricket. Brooklyn Dodger fan from 1955
Chuck McGivney
Cliff Blau
Clyde Sikorski
Cody Cooper
Cody Swartz Current Featured Columnist at Bleacher Report, baseball history buff
Craig Swartz
D Charabin
Dalton Mack SABR member, HighHeatStats and
Dan Hirsch Founder of baseball database,
Dan McCloskey SABR member; writes for USA Today, High Heat Stats and
Dan O’Connor “Just a stat fan.” Used to compile TV, film and music stats for a music licensing firm
Daniel Shoptaw Founder of the Baseball Bloggers Alliance; Cardinals blogger
Darin Tuck
Dave Vonderhaar reader, SABR member
David Cohen Former sports editor, Philadelphia Inquirer
David Gold
David Kelly
David Lawrence Reed SABR member, has contributed to the Baseball Research Journal
David Lick Occasional blogger at
David Peng
David Pinto Has written since 2002; former lead researcher for ESPN’s Baseball Tonight
David Uhl
David Williams Baseball card collector and St. Louis Cardinal fan
Dean Godfrey
Dean Sullivan Author of four books of baseball history through University of Nebraska Press
Derrick Fenwick Lifelong fan and baseball history lover. Has been to 37 MLB parks
DeWayne Mann
Domenic Lanza Writer for of ESPN’s Sweetspot network
Douglas E. Heeren
Dr. Meredith Wills SABR member; astrophysicist with expertise in automated tracking and machine learning, fielding junkie looking forward to working with Statcast data, recognized by the Baseball HOF for winning Stitch N’ Pitch’s 2007 national design contest
Duane Harris Writes
Ed Stankowski
Ed White Freelance writer and editor; past journalist, college athletic recruiter and, for 25 years, a practicing attorney
Eric Casey
Eric Chalek Lapsed SABR member, writes and participant in the Hall of Merit
F.J. Nachman
Francisco Hilario
Frank Oglesby
Fred Antczak
G Chan
Gabriel Schechter
Gary Bateman
Gary Passamonte SABR member, Ross Barnes HOF advocate
George Kurtz RotoExperts Fantasy Sports Show, SiriusXM 210/87, 7a-10a EST Sat
Graham Hudson
Greg Layton SABR member, tweets about the Royals
Howard Fisher
Howard Miller Writes the Hall of Miller and Eric
j sharkey
Jacob Rashbaum
James Gross
James Holland
James Nicolls
Jason Kim
Jeff Bozovsky  SABR member; writes for
Jeff Snider
Jena Yamada “Baseball fan, mom to dog, science nerd”
Jerry Woolstrum SABR member and stat head
Jesse Collings
Jim Black Lifelong baseball fan; has seen everyone from Willie Mays to Ken Griffey Jr.
Jim Pertierra SABR member; has run a play-by-mail baseball league since 1979, of which Bill James was an original manager
Jim Proulx
Joe Mello Royals’ fan for ~35 years with an interest in stats and baseball history
Joe Robinson 50-year baseball history enthusiast
Joe Tassinari Blogger and 40-year baseball fan. Recent baseball article:
Joe Ullman
Joe Williams SABR member; former chair of the 19th century committee
Joey Bartz SABR member and doctoral candidate
John Carter Has contributed over a dozen articles to; writes
John Fockler Author of “In Defense of Buck Weaver,” The Torch magazine, v82,#2,p28 (Winter, 2008)
John Kinsey
John Raimo
John Robertson SABR member since 1993; has written three baseball books
John Sharp Writes; huge fan of Bill Freehan
John Sutter
Jonathan Stilwell
JT Ellenberger
Julian Levine Former Giants blogger and writer for
Karl Ehrsam
Kazuto Yamazaki Writes for and [starting soon]
Kenneth Matinale Writes
Kevin Graham SABR member; writes
Kevin Porter Lifelong baseball fan, avid sabermetric reader and Strat-o-Matic fanatic
Kevin Tomlin
Kris Gardner Writes for
Larry Cookson
Larry Marsh
Laura K
Lawrence Azrin Regular at
Lee Domingue Baseball fan
Len Drasin
Mark Blanchard
Mark Robinson
Marty Klotz
Matt Adams
Matt Mitchell SABR member, Professional statistician (non-MLB employed),
Matt Stock
Matt Whitener Writes; creative baseball editor, The Sports Fan Journal
Michael Cook Baseball fan, former writer at Pinstripe Alley, active member of many baseball sites
Michael Henry Spring training reporter, St. Petersburg Evening Independent, 1981-85; Tampa Tribune, 1986-96; Bradenton Herald, 2000-08. Tampa Bay Rays reporter for last paper, 2003-08
Michael Hilywa Blogger,,
Michael Martin High school teacher; love reading about/researching early years of baseball
Michael Terilli Contributor to Baseball Essential
Michael Weddell Affiliated with
Mike Cameron Retired sports writer for Pioneer Press and Chicago Sun-Times; author of “Public Bonehead, Private Hero: The Real Legacy of Baseball’s Fred Merkle”
Mike Denton Baseball fan; past member of the PCL Historical Society
Mike Huey
Mike Lackey SABR member, recipient of the Larry Ritter Book Award
Mike Norton SABR member, baseball fan since 1950
Mike Schneider
Mike Warwick
Mitch Lutzke
Nathan Aderhold Managing Editor, Halos Daily
Nathan Canby
Nathan Timm
Nick Diunte SABR member who has been published in two books and various newspapers. Writes for and Senior editor for MetroBaseball Magazine
Nick Pain
Nicole Cahill Writes
No email
No name
Pat Corless
Patrick Buzzard Fan post author at
Patrick Dubuque notgraphs expatriate
Patrick Mackin
Paul Dylan Writes and publishes print magazine devoted to tabletop-sports card & dice games like Strat-O-Matic, APBA, and Statis-Pro
Paul McCord
Paul Perilli
Paul Plaine SABR member professional baseball photographer
Paul Plater
Pete Sorice Baseball fan; writes
Peter Nash Writes; founding member of the Def Jam rap group 3rd Bass
Phil Bolda SABR member
Phil Dellio Author of three books and a grade school teacher
Phyllis LaVietes
Rand Tenor
Ray Anselmo SABR member and romance writer
Ray Regan
Rayan Vatti
Rich Dubroff Orioles Insider,
Rich Lipinski
Rich Moser SABR member for more than 10 years; currently writing a book on the Hall of Fame
Richard Solensky
Rick Cabral Founder and editor of; has written two baseball-related e-books
Rick Canale Hall of Fame member, Red Sox fan and collect presidential baseball memorabilia
Ricky Cobb
Rob Dakin Fan and follower of baseball lore since 1956
Rob Harris Writes for Freelance writer for the Chicago Sun-Times, Timeout Chicago and Zisk Magazine, among others
Rob Marshall Baseball fan; recently created hit viral “Waiting for Alexander” video
Robert Rittner
Ron Kaplan
Ron Rollins
Ross Carey SABR member, does
Rusty Logan
Ryan Jennings Loves to attend Minor League Baseball games
Ryan McCrystal Former ESPN Stats & Info researcher; writes for
Ryan Thibodaux
Sam Redden
Scott Brown
Scott Candage
Scott Cole
Scott Crawford Writes at Scott Crawford On Cards (
Scott Glasser #justbaseball. Twitter fan. Baseball fanatic
Scott Jackson Baseball fan for more than 25 years; has been to five consecutive Little League World Series
Scott Klein
Scott Simkus SABR member; author of “Outsider Baseball: The Weird World of Hardball on the Fringe,” which has been nominated for a 2015 CASEY Award and the Seymour Medal
Sean Lahman SABR member, founder of the Lahman Baseball Database
Sean McNeely
Sherri Samudio
Stefano Micolitti Wrote about MLB during 1980s for Italian magazine, “Tuttobaseball e softball”
Steve Kreischer Baseball fan
Steve Snyder Newspaper editor, blogger at
Steve Sullivan
Steven Smith
Ted Maire
Ted Mulvey
Tim Angell
Tim Deale SABR Member, Bio Project contributor, currently writing a manuscript for a baseball book
Tom Crittenden
Tom Gardner
Tom Hanrahan Frequent contributor to By The Numbers and occasionally writes Baseball Research Journal articles
Tom Strother Was a SABR member for more than 30 years; wrote masters thesis titled “Professional Baseball and the Anti-Trust Laws”
Tom Thrash SABR member, ballpark hound–
TR Sullivan Texas Rangers beat writer, MLB.Com
Travis Cherrier
Victor Dadras SABR member and baseball coach
Vinnie “Long time baseball fan whose only regret was his lack of talent”
wayne horiuchi Avid sports card collector who has one of the most extensive game-used/autograph Hall of Fame collections in America
William Tasker Writes for of ESPN SweetSpot Network

Project schedules

A quick update for a Tuesday afternoon:

First off, voting closed Sunday night for my project on the 25 most important people in baseball history. Thanks to the 262 people who voted! I’m excited to share the voting results and will unveil them next Monday. I want to take my time writing between now and then to do this project justice. I’ll try to get a couple regular posts up in the interim, though I’m not promising anything in-depth.

On a related note, as some may know, I do an annual project having people vote on the 50 best baseball players not in the Hall of Fame. I’ve done this project for four years now and it’s always been a December-January thing. I’ve done it at this time because interest in Cooperstown spikes between the time the Veterans Committee announces its inductees in December and when the Baseball Writers Association of America does likewise in January.

That being said, I’ve decided to do something different this year. Because I do not want to burden people who just voted in my project on the 25 most important people in baseball history by asking them to immediately fill out another ballot, I’m pushing my project on the 50 best players not in the Hall of Fame out at least a few months. Ideally, I’d like it to run in late July, when interest in Cooperstown peaks during the annual induction weekend.

I may ask for votes a few months before July, though, as I’m interested in doing the next version of my Hall of Fame project as a book. That’s right. I’m 31, I’ve never written a book, and I know I have one in me. I also think I’ve maybe taken my Hall of Fame project as far as I want to in blog form. I’m eager to explore the creative possibilities that doing my project as a book may allow. I also believe in continuing to give myself challenges and growing. It’s an important part of life, not just for writers.

I’m posting all of this here as an explanation to anyone who was looking forward to voting in a month [eight people have voted all four years of my project; dozens of others have voted two or three years.] I also want to invite anyone interested in helping me plan a book. I know I’m going to need a lot of help for this thing to be a success.

From the archive: A call for higher salaries– in 1903

Found on

At some point when I have some time, I’d like to undertake some extended research here. I have this theory that for most of baseball’s history, people– fans, team management and writers parroting front office views– have complained that player salaries are too high. Whether it’s $5,000 a season or per inning, depending on the point in baseball history, it seems like someone’s always been around to decry men being remunerated for playing a game.

Bill James in at least a couple of his books has examples of this, stuff like old-timers complaining about players being around to make “a fast buck” in the 1930s. It’s nonsense, of course. Even stars like Joe DiMaggio earned maybe $25,000 a year then, equivalent to around $400,000 today. I suppose it was vastly superior to the wage of the average employee during the Great Depression, but I also doubt they generated anywhere near the revenue the Yankee Clipper did. That doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of good stories on places like slamming the Yankee Clipper and other stars of baseball history every time they held out or spoke of striking. I’d like to cull some of these stories together here.

I’ll see if I can get to this research sometime this week. Voting on my project on the 25 most important people in baseball history wraps tomorrow and I know I’m going to be busy getting the November 10 results post ready. Still, research like this keeps me going. It’s fun. Also, offering original, insightful research is a core value of this site. It’s not that hard to do, anyhow. We’re in a golden age for research. More historical data and primary source material is being digitized than ever.

For now, I’ll offer a player from 1903, Tom Daly of the Cincinnati Reds who suggested players weren’t being well-paid enough. A couple of things worth noting before we get to an excerpt from the article:

  1. It was written in September 1903, months after the National and American leagues declared an end to the open war that had existed since the junior circuit began play in 1901.
  2. As the article notes, the National League in 1903 had a maximum salary for players of $2,400 per year, about $61,300 in 2013 dollars. It’s why so many players jumped their contracts and went to the American League in 1901 and 1902.

Daly was one of those players, playing with the Chicago White Sox in 1902 and 1903 before finishing the last half of the second season with the Reds. Late in the year, he gave an interview as noted above. Most of the piece is a long quote from Daly, including:

It is only in exceptional cases that a ballplayer’s life in fast company is for more than ten years. If he is to receive only $1,500 or $1,800 a season for giving the best years of his life to the game, what inducement is there for him to play ball?

Interestingly, Daly’s last game in the majors came on September 27, 1903, just a few weeks after he spoke out in this article. Granted he was 37 and in his seventeenth season. All the same, I can’t help but wonder if Daly’s candor accelerated his departure.


“From the archive” is a weekly series here that highlights old baseball-related newspaper clippings.

Others in this series: